Hi there, I ordered ten of these 6 X 8 RayMar panels, first time I've used them. This is my first painting on one. I'm going to try listing a few of these unframed on Ebay and see what happens. I noticed other artists seem to have good luck with this, who knows?? I like this little still life with the pink lilles in the little pitcher. RayMar carries these panels and they also have canvas carriers, I bought one of those too. Check them out here.